In this episode we are very excited to welcome Charlie Dunn from DPR. As per his usual, Charlie provides many wonderful nuggets to improving the future of the construction industry through the art of storytelling, and distills the solutions down to two ideas: empathy and scientific thinking. Charlie has a unique and captivating way of looking at projects, identifying the challenges, and guiding members of the project team to efficiently and successfully provide solutions. He is able to do this at a high level applying solutions to areas of the industry as a whole, down to a project specific challenge. He also talks about his debut on TED Talk: https://youtu.be/W8Jg8BG8szcand the journey that lead him there. The added twist to this podcast is the situation he found himself in Switzerland, which is providing additional reflection opportunities, development, and personal healing. Intrigued? Tune in and listen to your hosts of Deliberate Words - Dave Stutzman and Steve Gantner chatting with Charlie Dunn learning about Empathy and Construction.